Ep 17: The Energetic Effects of Living on the Internet (w/Morgan Sachs from the Healing Mind™ App)

What does it mean for our bodies and brains to be aware of what's going on ALL over the world, when a few decades ago we were mostly exposed to what happened in our near vicinity on a daily basis? I wanted to get Morgan's take as an energy healer and explore some of the ways we can care for ourselves as we navigate the rapidly changing landscape of living a lot of our lives on the internet!

Check out the Healing Mind™ App to listen to Morgan's Technology Cleanse light language audio: https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1632086744?pt=125216772&ct=Rachel%20Website&mt=8

Transcript

Rachel: [00:00:00] On this episode of New Paradigm Human, Morgan from the Healing Mind app and I are talking about the energetic effects of living on the internet.
Hi everyone, I am here with Morgan from the Healing Mind app. And I invited her here today to talk about a topic that recently became very interesting to me. We've both been listening to these interviews by Matthias DeStefano, who's a very interesting channel and past life remember, and he brought up a related topic, and it got me very interested and excited.
So I wanted to have Morgan here today, [00:01:00] who is a 6'2 splenic projector to share her perspective on this topic. which is the effects of our current online world and internet on us as individual souls and human beings. Welcome, Morgan. 
Morgan: Hi, Rachel. I'm really excited for this conversation. I think it's something that's all sort of in the back of our minds, but we haven't quite figured out how to relate to it in a healthy way, in a way that actually works for us.
So, yeah, this will be a fun conversation. 
Rachel: And I think that your work is very interesting because you're in contact with people's energy bodies very closely. So you probably see the effects of people spending a lot of time online. We also work online. And so I'm very interested in that side of it. But the thing that got me thinking about this was Matthias was talking about how we just in the last couple of decades, really, basically, since we all [00:02:00] started living on the internet.
Even when we were kids, the world wasn't like this, but in the last couple of decades, we've moved from being only exposed to what's going around us locally to basically living in a fully global world. Where instead of having all of these different cultures and smaller, I guess, microcosms of human interaction, we now are aware of like everything that happens all over the world.
And that's a very, very fast shift for humans to make. And I think that a lot of us have a really hard time with that. It's just difficult. It's like our brains, I'm not sure, have caught up to that yet. So that was kind of what got me thinking about this. 
Morgan: Yeah, I think it's so interesting because like you said, we have access to everything, whereas before we didn't.
And I think, you know, we talk a lot [00:03:00] about human design, like deconditioning and all the programming, and it's oftentimes we're referring to like our childhoods. And now I feel like Since we have this complete access and we're, I don't know about you, but I open Instagram or Twitter like several times a day.
And so it's like we have access to all of these things in our space, in our, you know, wherever our attention goes. That's kind of what grows. That we're constantly continuing to be conditioned. And so it's like how are we having responsibility for that and taking the things that we need to do to like come back to ourselves because I feel like social media especially is always, I mean most of the time we're kind of getting taken out of ourselves, right?
Like, oh this is the thing that's gonna help me with this or this is what this person says and There are some places on the internet where it is kind of a, you know, coming back to yourself, but I think the majority of it is, like, taking us away [00:04:00] from ourselves. So, yeah, there's a lot of impact, I would say, on the human experience, like you said, as far as not, this is such a new thing to try to calibrate to, like, oh my gosh, we have access to everything now.
Rachel: Yeah, this topic keeps coming up in my world, which is why I knew it was something that I wanted to talk about because that's just usually how it goes for me as a generator. I was listening to this podcast. It was like the story of Edward Snowden and all of that, but at the end, they talked about sort of the modern surveillance, like local surveillance that goes on on the internet, like next door.
And I guess like citizen app or citizen. I've, I've never used that before. I am, I am familiar with next door. And like the second I logged onto that, I was like, Nope, like don't want this. He, the guy was basically talking about how with the Edward Snowden thing, it's just general, like. government surveillance, but this was just like citizen surveillance.
[00:05:00] And he brought up like a very similar point to kind of what Matias had talked about, which is these things are supposed to make us feel like safer in a way, but actually they just expose us to all of these things that we wouldn't know about otherwise. So, you know, about some break in that's going in on three miles from your house.
Um, depending especially on like how dense of an area you live in, like I live in a very dense area. And so a couple miles from my house is actually quite far in terms of like how much city and neighborhood is between me and that place. And so basically they were saying that these things actually can have a.
And opposite effect of not really keeping you informed and safe instead exposing you to like every possible thing that's going on in your city at any given time that actually has absolutely nothing to do with your immediate vicinity, not to mention like issues of people's like biases and like prejudice and all of these.
Yeah, all of their programming about what they view as like safe or something that's worth [00:06:00] alerting people about. But just generally, I, that was one of the first times I felt that real overwhelm of that kind of information. So I was curious, how have you navigated living part of your life online, like over the past few years, especially as a projector, someone who's very sensitive to the energy that you take in, a psychic person, someone who works with energy.
How do you handle the onslaught of information? 
Morgan: That's a great question. I think, honestly, I don't, like, I don't read the news. I don't participate really in the online world because I get that that's, that would impact me so much. And like you were saying, how it's become this globalization. I think it's so common for people to see.
I mean, it's just the human brain, how the brain works is like people will see one thing and then they'll want to globalize it. They want to make it into something bigger. If you see, if you're constantly seeing like those topics that [00:07:00] are like so traumatizing and can cause so much fear. It's one of those things that if you're seeing it, it's like, oh my gosh, that is something that happens everywhere.
When we see all these things, our fear, like our fear just becomes so big, thinking like, oh, it happened there. Just really does impact our energy. And it's not uncommon for me to see in sessions, even, you know, everything is very, like, imagery based, but I'll see, like, Chips like computer chips in people's aura and like all of these sort of tech sort of energies that Inserts this idea or this energy that then begins to inform the rest of their energy When it's not actually something that is really happening to them if that makes sense 
Rachel: Yes, it does and I I get exactly what you're saying because even if it's like a sensitive topic It's like those things are happening, but [00:08:00] they aren't happening everywhere, every day, all the time.
So it's like we can get a really skewed perspective on what's actually happening in the world. Something that I started to notice was I do read the news, not for hours every day, but I check the New York Times usually once a day, just see what's up. And that's kind of a habit that, for me, started more intensely during COVID, I would say, like before maybe I would check the news like a couple times a week.
What kind of surprised me was, especially with the New York Times, this attitude that the world was getting worse and worse and worse. And that, that was a little bit surprising. And so I got curious, like, is that actually true? Because I understood where people were coming from. It, it felt that way at points, especially with COVID, especially with just all of like Trump and all of like the, like hate crimes.
So I was kind of curious, just not just in the U S but worldwide. Was that actually true? Cause [00:09:00] people around my age were saying like, Oh, I don't want to have kids because of global warming in the world. And I started to think like. Well, wait, is that actually true? So I looked into it and I looked at some data and really data wise, we are globally in a better place than we've ever been like, in general, the best time to be a human ever in terms of just quality of life, life expectancy.
Education, opportunities, things that are going on in the world. Obviously, that does not account for everything that happens to every human being. I think it's still a pretty rough time to be on planet Earth, like, in terms of like, where I think we can get in the future. But that was just really interesting to me.
So I got curious, like, why is there this mismatch with that? And I think it is just, All of the things that we're taking in every day and also how these platforms, they are all companies. And so they're manipulating our attention all the time. [00:10:00] They know that the negative things are the things that get the most views and the most attention and the most clicks.
And we've just gotten. used to that because a lot of us came or just where our first exposure to the internet was before all that stuff existed. Like, things weren't really monetized in that way because the tech wasn't there. So maybe we started to see these things as neutral, maybe? What do you think?
Morgan: Yeah. It's really interesting. I think, I guess, like, from, like, my view, my perspective, I have a hard time getting into, like, the nitty gritty about it, and I just end up seeing more of, like, how the mechanics of being human and, like, our attention and how, yeah, as we're, like, paying attention to these things, like, that is just so powerful.
I don't think people realize the power of their attention. Because when we give energy to something through our attention, it expands and that we see more of it [00:11:00] and just like the examples of when you like buy a new car and then you just see it everywhere kind of thing. It's like very similar. So I think that there is some responsibility.
And like you said, it's new. We're still, like, this is a new era. We're trying to figure out, like, how does this, how do we live and operate in this? Because there's a lot of really great things about the internet. There's so many wonderful things about social media and, like, the connections that people are making, and So we can't like completely discount it.
But if we all realized the power of our attention, where we place our energy and just noticing like, okay, this is what we're operating in. And I think a lot of your listeners probably already have this view of, you know, it's a company and they're feeding us stuff and it's not like real life. But I think When we see it, like our brain, our subconscious sometimes has a really hard time distinguishing between what's real and what's fabricated, you know, just like a [00:12:00] child watching a TV show and they think that like the characters are real and the place is real and all of that and so we see these things.
It's so common to just be like, Oh, yeah, and we're only ever seeing highlights. We know that like we just See things and we think that they're real. So then all of this conditioning that we're receiving, and I see it so much with people like, especially in the business world of like, oh yeah, the ultimate goal is to reach 10 K months or whatever,
And I just find that to be so. Funny because I'm like really that's is that what we're all trying to accomplish is making 10, 000 a month like that just seems So irrelevant to me and I think it's liberating whenever we can notice like oh, yeah These are just the things that we're feeding and because so many people are placing their attention on that That's what's growing.
Like what if the goal was like, oh, yeah, let's I mean, there's so many different corners and pockets of the internet who have like this ego ideal of what the goal is, but [00:13:00] yeah, when we place our attention there, that's just so impactful. So if we could come back to like, what we actually want and what we want to see the world like, because that's really what reality is, is your 
Rachel: perception.
So now I get exactly what you're saying, and it is. It's interesting you brought up the subconscious because I think that is a big part of this is most people have undefined head centers. Like I'll talk about just kind of the human design mechanics of these vulnerabilities and how this affects us in a second.
But there's so many good things about this in that we can be more aware and share information. more quickly of things that are going on. And it's helped so many people mobilize movements and make changes. And it has been really powerful and empowering and helpful in that way. But sometimes I think when we see something online, because our brains are used to.
[00:14:00] Taking everything quite literally, like the subconscious is very literal. So it's like when it sees something, it's like, oh, well, I'm seeing it. So it's in front of me. It's kind of like, when you see videos of cats chasing, you know, fish that are on an iPad, or like, I saw one of a dog licking a computer screen that had like a delicious looking meat thing on it.
And I was like, yeah, that's kind of how it is. Like, we you know, we don't do that as humans, but our brains kind of do because our brains have a hard time distinguishing between like what's real and what's not, or not what's real, but like, what's an immediate threat to us. Cause it's all real, most of it.
So like something I've definitely noticed as a defined head person, or just as a, a helpful practice for the subconscious in general is when I encounter things like that. A way to, like, help them not get lodged in your subconscious is to just bring them up to the conscious, so it's like you see it and it's like, okay, wait, is this something that I need to worry about?
Is this something that is [00:15:00] relevant to my actual person where I am standing right now? And if the answer is yes, then okay. Take action on it or include it in your reality, but a lot of times it's just something that is so out of our control and it's okay to know about it, but it's like we have to and it's useful and it's helpful and like I love spending hours a day sometimes watching documentaries about things that are happening all over the world.
I think it's really interesting. But we have to kind of take a moment to decide whether that's something that gets lodged down in us and is like actually relevant to us as individuals, as opposed to something that it's just like good to be aware of. 
Morgan: Yeah. And I'm curious too, like, how have you navigated being an online entrepreneur?
Because You know, prior, I know you were working in corporate America and everything was face to face and you kind of know what you're getting. Sort of like people are setting goals for you. You know, you hear it from your manager, like this is what the goal [00:16:00] is or, you know, things like that. So how, how have you kind of navigated this space?
Because again, like I was saying before, there's just so many. perceived successes online. How have you managed that? Like, how have you followed to know what your definition of success is? 
Rachel: I feel like some of this changed for me recently, not necessarily, not just that, but also how I was perceiving the effects of living on the internet so much.
I feel like I'm not as sensitive to this as a lot of people. Like if you think about my human design, I have six defined centers. Like I, I have a defined head and Ajna. So those are places that I think people are really vulnerable. And so I haven't felt as sensitive to it. But I would say that this year I became aware just of some of those things that had been embedded in me Especially when you enter the online space I had no clue about Business [00:17:00] or ain't like doing business by myself when I started doing this in 2019 like really very little clue So I was really looking to all the people who I was perceiving as successful for clues on how to do this.
And I feel like I had been living a lot of my life online previous to that, because when I had my quote unquote spiritual awakening in 2014, I did get introduced to this global community of people who are all kind of experiencing something similar to me, especially around Twin Flames. And so that was That was a big change because that was the first time I started using social media, particularly Facebook at the time to interact with people all over the world.
Whereas before I'd mainly only use those things to interact with people I already knew. So it was like I was interacting with strangers for the first time and then meeting those people in person and then becoming a client of people who had online businesses, different [00:18:00] healers and things like that. I was familiar with like being, I guess, like a consumer of that world, but being like an actual creator in that world was very different.
And yeah, I definitely internalized all different ideas about what success meant. And I really had to decondition and release a lot of those this year because I found that it was making me really miserable. It wasn't so much that I had to turn off people's voices around me, I mean, if I didn't resonate with something that someone was saying anymore, then I would unfollow them or whatever, but I think I just started checking in with myself and, like, sourcing my own guidance and truth about the world through, like, journaling, meditation, hypnosis, hypnosis.
Yeah. Thank you very much. It's energy healing, all these different things and trying to make that the first place I went as opposed to allowing someone else's voice to get in my head first. 
Morgan: Wow. Yeah. It's almost like you, you first check in with [00:19:00] yourself and then if you need help figuring out how to execute what's your, what your internal wisdom is, then you can go and look for a resource.
Rachel: Exactly. And I guess that's the concept of what an inner authority is versus an outer authority, which is like, because sometimes I would get caught up in the feeling of, oh, well, if we're not supposed to condition each other, why are we putting out our own frequency in the world or whatever, but We are supposed to, like, we have an inner authority, but we also each provide an outer authority for the world, which is basically us expressing our unique frequency, which can help people grow, like, move forward with things, figure out what works for them, what doesn't.
It's really healthy for all of us to put our outer authority into the world. It's just that we want to make sure that our inner authority is our number one, and we're always looking at other people's outer authority through that lens of our inner authority and discerning, like, does what this person's saying ring true to me?
[00:20:00] If it does, okay, cool, then I can learn more about this from this person. But if it doesn't, then how can I? Do this my own way. I've definitely gone through some deconditioning. But how about you? 
Morgan: Yeah, I think what I'm hearing you saying is like, I think that's the biggest distinction that could quote unquote, solve this problem or whatever is that if people were able to first, you know, really connect with their inner authority.
And I love that, you know, that's The work that you're doing and, um, what I'm doing too is just to help people like bring back to themselves so they can hear their own wisdom first, you know? So it's like, I feel like that would solve the problem. Everybody was able to tune into themselves first and then use the internet as a resource rather than just going to the internet blindly with no intention and just being like inundated with everything.
Rachel: I agree. And I also noticed, I don't know why right now, I don't know really what the point of this is, but I did [00:21:00] notice a shift in myself of just feeling a bit more sensitive to social media, particularly to Instagram, but also to Twitter. I mean, we're recording this in November 2022, like Twitter's crazy right now because Elon Musk just bought it.
So I don't know like what algorithm I'm in versus what everybody else is in, but. It just feels like that's all anybody's talking about on there and people feel really negative and scared about it. I recently just started to notice like, oh, I just can't really be on Instagram all the time. Like, And I think part of that is the short form video content, which has also been another thing that's appearing in my reality a lot is like people talking about this, creators talking about this.
I really noticed it too, which is, I see nothing wrong with short form video content. I think it's actually really creative and great in a lot of ways. But what the platforms and companies are starting to [00:22:00] incentivize creators to do is to create literally the shortest. video they possibly can, like three to four seconds, so that by the time someone kind of realizes what they've seen, they've already watched it like three to four times.
And I heard this from a YouTuber that I watch, who was talking with other like creator friends that she has, and she doesn't like the short form video and they were talking about, and they've had a lot of success with it, and they were like telling her this, that this is like what they do. I was like, yup, that's why that feels so hard on my system.
Like I, consciously there's no problem with it. It's, it can be really fun. It's addictive. It's creative. But there's something in my brain that like feels wrong about it. I don't know. How do you feel about consuming short form video or do you even consume it? 
Morgan: I, sometimes I feel like I live under a rock, honestly, because maybe this is the, [00:23:00] the second line body, I just, I don't know, I don't participate in the online world as much as I think most people do, like, even my husband, like, he constantly watches YouTube shorts, like, that's his thing, where he's just like, Always doing that.
Or he's always on LinkedIn. Like, I think everyone has something. I even had canceled my Instagram last year. I just like got off Instagram and just really was like pretty much removed myself from social media for like several months. And then I had like a splint, a kit to get back on and. It's just been so different, like I don't, it's not a place I love spending my time at all, honestly, and so I think I just avoid it as much as possible, and I only follow like, like a limited number of people, and Because I think, particularly with what I'm doing, there's a lot of stuff out there about [00:24:00] spirituality and about healing and all of this and I just know that I'm easily conditioned by all of the ideas and perspectives in the spiritual space, so I don't follow hardly any of that.
Okay. thing, spiritual online, because I want myself to be clean and clear and just have like a very clear, authentic channel that is not conditioned by outside perspectives that I just know myself that that would totally impact me. I mostly follow, like, fashion or, like, home organization and stuff. And so, yeah, I think that's just my, I think that's, like, a really big responsibility of mine is to know that about myself and to not do that.
Like, I just, like, I don't even know what you're talking about, honestly. Like, these short form videos. Well, just, like, 
Rachel: reels, 
Morgan: really. Oh, yeah, I don't really love those either because they just, like you said, it's just kind of, it's just too much on the system. 
Rachel: Yeah, [00:25:00] reels and Tik Toks. It's like, I'm really careful not to ever let myself fall into this trap of like, not adapting to what's going on out there just in general, like, I don't want to because I always wondered, well, how do, how do you like older people just get so out of touch with things?
Like, I don't want to be like that. But now I'm starting to understand because I'm like, Oh, yeah, these other generations are coming up in a totally different world where like they grew up on YouTube and things we didn't have when I was younger. So it can be easy to want to reject these things like short form video.
So I've been very careful of wanting to reject it just because it's new. But I will say like, I think it's really rough on the brain. I don't know, there's just something about it that and I'm not the only person who's felt this. I've heard a lot of people say this. Could be that just because we're a little older, we didn't grow up with like as much video content that it's harder for us, but I don't, I don't think so.
My guess is that this is, is kind of true for [00:26:00] a lot of people because I'm hearing some of the, even the creators that I follow, like YouTubers who are in their early twenties say like, Oh yeah, I accidentally spent five hours yesterday on TikTok. And I'm like, Oh my. So it's not like anybody's really got a handle on this.
Like this is meant to be addictive and expose us to just, that's just so much like of the world to take in so quick, like in five hours, you could probably watch like at the least 300 different. People and places and topics and that's like if everything was a minute, whereas things are literally like five to seven seconds.
So it's probably more like a thousand. Yeah, that's just really rough on on the human brain. 
Morgan: Yeah, and like you were saying in the beginning how Mateus was talking about the difference between just evolutionarily how we were much more part of our tribe or our community [00:27:00] and so yeah, I think that we always forget just how impactful our genes and our genetics and all of that impact who we are and how we operate and you can't just completely shift things in a generation or two generations or like even, you know, a hundred generations.
It's just, doesn't go that fast. And we've talked about that before too, like the difference between the energetic world and the physical world and even the whole manifestation thing of how sometimes people think that you can just like make things happen right away. And I think part of that is conditioning from the internet, because we see, all we see are these results of things, and we don't see the whole journey, we don't see anything except for the end result, and so, that just gives us this false illusion that things happen that quickly.
And they don't. 
Rachel: Yeah, I think it's really interesting what you're saying about not really following anything, especially in the field where you work. [00:28:00] I see that in a lot of projectors and it makes complete sense why you would, like a lot of projectors are on Instagram and don't follow anybody. I see the same thing in manifestors.
It would make total sense because as a projector, you're so open and different projectors can have different centers that are defined. And I mean. But you are generally really open and also you're here to bring like your unique perspective and flavor to everything. So if you're being constantly bombarded by what other people are doing, I would imagine it's harder to feel like you're sourcing from your authentic.
higher self or inner perspective. Same with a manifestor. For us as generators and manifesting generators, we are here to respond. So for me, like not following anybody on social media, probably wouldn't be like the move because seeing other things helps me like get moving. But I have noticed that, like I said before, if I'm on it too much, what it [00:29:00] does is not really Infiltrate like my perspective and maybe that's my defined head and Ajna that just isn't very vulnerable to that.
But what it will do is I become a consumer instead of a creator when I'm here to be a creator like that is my ultimate sort of purpose as a sacral being is like to be doing and creating. And so a lot of us can get that creative energy like sucked away by just consuming because that also is it takes energy to do that.
So that's just the, like the challenge that I see. And I would say when I think about like, uh, like reflectors. Reflectors can probably consume quite a bit of different things, but you just wouldn't want as a reflector to be like consuming the same thing all the time. Like probably because you, you know, the reflectors that I know are pretty impervious to like taking on conditioning.
But if they were to listen to the same person saying the same thing every day, that's when I see them start to get vulnerable [00:30:00] to like someone else's outside message. So it is really interesting how it's different for each of us, but it has, I guess, like it's. Pluses and it's minuses. We just have to figure out like what those are for us.
Morgan: So what's your way 
Rachel: forward with the internet? I feel like lately I have noticed a big shift in myself. Like it's funny because I have to just recognize that the way that these things get sort of weaponized against us are not new, like. There's always going to be these media outlets that are trying to get our attention.
This was going on when we were kids, you know, with like the five o'clock news, like it's always gone on even when it's like hyper local. Even we have a little newspaper in our neighborhood. It's like for this quadrant of Portland. And we joke because every time a new issue comes out during the month, they try to choose the most sensational, ridiculous, like homeless man sets.[00:31:00] 
Bank on fire, like crash at whatever. And it's this big headline. And it's like this literally affected like so few people, like it may be affected five to 10 people. So it, and that is like a very old school form of media. So it's not, this is human nature to do this, but what's kind of intense about it is that it's so wide reaching that like people so far away from us can affect us through the internet.
So basically what I've noticed lately. Is that I really have to start the day away from outside sources and I really have to limit it to like a small amount of my day so like I like to see what's going on in the world but it can't be the first thing I do in the morning so like I've started sleeping without my phone near my bed just like Those first moments in the morning are when you take things in, and it kind of sets the [00:32:00] tone for, like, how your brain is thinking for the rest of the day, I guess?
So, I've just been very careful to, like, relegate it to a certain amount of my day and not first thing in the morning. 
Morgan: That's great. I feel like that's advice everyone can take. I know that I should probably be 
Rachel: doing that. It's like not the easiest because I started to feel like my brain was kind of going crazy like it was just feeling really weird and and I was getting like sucked into things for a really long time and I don't think that that means that there's anything wrong with us.
It's like literally built to do that to us because these people who create these platforms are experts in how to get people's attention. I'm curious you as a like someone who works with energy. Do you have any advice or practices or anything like quick that people can do when they feel like maybe they've gotten overloaded?
Like I even noticed one place in my chart [00:33:00] that I am really vulnerable to like taking in too much energy is my solar plexus. That's a very common one for all of us since so many of us have that undefined like if I am I have to stay away from, like, really emotionally charged things because I will, like, feel that for the rest of the day.
So yeah, do you have any, like, practices that are helpful in kind of, like, getting that out? I mean, 
Morgan: meditation is, like, the biggest energy practice I think possible. just being able to like sit with yourself and because energy is always of Evolving like it's always moving like, you know, we hear about energy getting stuck in our bodies It's not that it's like stuck like a piece of gum like is just like stuck somewhere It's more that it doesn't have any attention placed on it.
So, you know, it's been neglected in a way When we place our attention back on ourselves and our sensations and our emotions and like the things that like you said your your [00:34:00] solar Plexus if you just sit there and like be with yourself silently for a period of time You'll begin to feel that energy somehow and your mind might start making up stories about it or you know Maybe you'll want to try to figure out what this is but it's more just allowing yourself to be with yourself feeling the body sensations that you have and And And that in and of itself will allow it to move and you don't have to, it won't ruin your whole day, you know, like it will be something where literally if you just spend 10 seconds, even it'll shift.
And so, yeah, I think that's probably my biggest recommendation is just taking a pause. Sitting with yourself noticing the sensations in your body and allowing them to move. It's just like watching a movie 
Rachel: I totally agree And I like that that's so simple because it truly is that simple like sometimes we're led to believe like oh If this is stuck in me like, you know I need someone to help me remove it or what and it's actually not like that at all If [00:35:00] anybody's ever done Vipassana meditation one of the stories that they tell you during the 10 day intensive The stories like the things that they teach is that one of the guys who was involved, I think, in inventing or creating the first atom bomb did a vipassana.
All you do in that meditation is you scan your body for sensations and place your awareness on them. And the idea is that it literally brings them to the surface and it releases them. And that is so true. I had some very. intense experiences throughout those 10 days. It was really, really interesting. And I guess he had so many of these dense, energetic kind of knots in his system that as he was doing that, it's like his legs were flailing around.
Like that's how intense it was. It was like, because it wasn't about him as a person. It was just that he had been involved in this thing that was so dense, so heavy, so destructive. And therefore I think got kind of [00:36:00] looped into all of the pain and suffering and death that that caused. So he had that stored in his body.
So I always think of that and it is, it's truly so simple. All you literally do is like sit there, breathe and notice the sensation in your body. You don't need some person to come and do this for you. 
Morgan: No, it is so simple. I love that. It's so perfect. It's just if you have the courage to do it, I think, because that's what we're all, like, we've learned to avoid and not pay attention to those things.
So, I think starting that can sometimes be scary, but then once you Stop labeling the sensations or stop labeling the experience as good, bad, whatever. Then you just realize, oh yeah, this is just a vibration of energy and this is how it feels in my body. Wow, I don't like that one or oh wow, that one feels good.
It's just like, it doesn't really matter. It's [00:37:00] all just energy. Exactly. 
Rachel: Well, I always like to think about the future of the world and the Aquarian Age and where we're going. That just brings me a lot of peace, feels like a big part of my purpose for being here. I feel like as time passes, as we move on in the next few decades, the next couple hundred years, this idea of becoming a, like a global culture, a global, globally connected world is positive.
It's not, or it's neutral, you know, it's not a negative thing. It's just. It just is. We can't go back. We can't, like, stuff that back in the box. It's happened. So, you know, I was thinking about how when I did, like, my study abroad in college, I didn't have a smartphone. So when I was, like, out in the city taking my classes surrounded by all strangers in this foreign country, That was my reality.
And so it was like, I read books from there and talk to people. And even then I still had my laptop at home. So it was like, [00:38:00] I could go home and like watch my TV shows, like my comfort TV shows. But like a few years before when I did a similar thing, I didn't even have that. Like I would just go back to my room at night.
I literally had nothing. I had like a journal and like a lamp and I would just go to bed because I wasn't there to like study or whatever. I didn't have a computer. And so it was just a completely different experience. Like you truly could get out of your world, but now you can't really. And there's some really wonderful things about that.
I think that you can be safer. You can find things easier. Like you have a map in your pocket, you know, you're not as vulnerable to like certain things when you travel, but you can, we'll never really be able to like recoup that reality. Unless we choose to, you know, you could just choose to not have a phone or whatever, but even then it's like we're all kind of watching the same movies where we know what's going on politically, and yeah, not in every pocket of the world, but, but generally probably in like every big city.[00:39:00] 
So we can't really go back and I feel like it's really good like I, I feel like we're all going to be able to look at all of the different cultures and learn about them and sort of get inspired and take what feels resonant to us and learn from the strengths that other people have and they can learn from our strengths and we'll just build this global like culture together.
Still, there will still be like regional differences and things like that, but I think it's a positive thing. It's just that it's a really difficult transition period right now because our brains were not born in that world. But now kids that are born now are born in that world. So they don't know anything different and they're gonna be the ones who ultimately carry this forward.
Morgan: Yeah, I agree with you. It is interesting to think about though, at the same time, like how does this play into the changes in 2027 about things being more [00:40:00] individualized? And so I think that maybe we'll find a balance. Maybe it'll be much more balanced over time. 
Rachel: I agree. Thank you for joining us. I wanted to let you know that Morgan actually made a technology cleanse healing audio for the Healing Mind app.
She and I are partnering more closely on this creation this year because I believe in it so much. I use it every day. I think it's an incredible tool. And you can find the Healing Mind app for Apple and Android. There is a free trial. I will link it below, so check it out.